One more thing. If it turns out heat IS the issue and you add more fans, you might end up with noise problems. There are several work arounds such as a watercooled case, adjustable speed fans, and there are "quieter" cpu fans than the 7200 rpm ones which sound like a vacuum cleaner inside your case. Here is another solution that JMS40 posted on another thread. "I solved the noise problem by moving my box out of my recording space. I am using a 10 foot SCSI 2 cable with no problems (readily available form computer suppliers). I'm using a stock case."
------------------------------ Larry F. Issaquah, Washington
Thanks! I'll give the house fan thing a try and see how that goes. If I had the money right now I'd just buy a watercooled case. It is such a pain having to shutdown the computer for 10 minutes during the middle of a session.
My koolance case is almost overkill. The cpu temp is around 80F with a heavy load. As far as the price- $250 (power supply included) is pretty good for a very quiet/cool system. I see aluminum cases (and definately rack units) priced higher. I also think by the time you pack a box with foam and purchase the right fan combinations you will be getting close to the koolance price anyway, especially if you are doing it by trial and error. I imagine you guys at dreamware HAVE to be using a proven quiet case setup, or we would be hearing complaints from your customers! I also know that you have put time and money into figuring out this configuration and if you give out the exact brands/combinations of power suplies/cases/fans/heatsinks, etc, you will essentially be giving away your reseach for free. The info you posted is very helpful, but there are sooo many brands and choices, its nearly impossible to get it right the first time. This adds up to $$ out of pocket, especially since you can't return most of those things for a refund. I personally spent about $200 in trial and error before I went with the koolance. If someone out there has a proven quiet setup, it would be very helpful if they post it- every detail-including the cost. Unless I see a setup significantly less expensive, and proven quiet, I'll stick with koolance for my DAW's.
------------------------------ DesmoBob in Paradise
Yes we have spent alot of money on R&D on what works best and how we can make a system quieter without resorting to water cooling. When you are searching for fans, look for a decible reading of no more than 25db, some custom fans are more expensive and are specified at 20db and 1600rpm! Fans at this rating be a whisper, you would literally have to have your ear up to them to hear the noise. Enermax and Antec are two companies that make great power supplies by the way.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dreamware: Yes we have spent alot of money on R&D on what works best and how we can make a system quieter without resorting to water cooling. When you are searching for fans, look for a decible reading of no more than 25db, some custom fans are more expensive and are specified at 20db and 1600rpm! Fans at this rating be a whisper, you would literally have to have your ear up to them to hear the noise. Enermax and Antec are two companies that make great power supplies by the way.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Alex, The problem is definitely the inefficiency of the Athlon processors at this time. Mostly a manufacturing issue. To me it doesn't do alot of good to put in low db case fans when you are running a 38db+ CPU fan. The Volcano II was a great heatsink/fan for the 1.4Ghz T-birds, and I see that they are producing a Volcano 7 or something like that now for the XPs. But still with db levels above 32db it is still impossible to record near that beast without picking up that hum with sensitive tube condensor mics. I also think that one of the great reasons for using water cooling besides the noise factor, is for creating a more stable rig. The cooler the processor the more stable it is going to run. That is the real reason for supercooling in any situation, besides preventing the CPU from burning up. Thanks for all your informative posts and I definitely agree with that Enermax equipment. Great company with solid products. That is what Koolance is using in their new cases. Allen
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